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November 12, 2004

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Andreas

Great post - I was just thinking of writing to you checking if you are sick or so - no posts for a long time.

This is the normal issue with training lessons that you outlined, plus, thanks - I learnt a lot of additional points.

I believe that one major issue is as well to keep going - coming back to work on Monday, you will encounter a lot of piled up work. It is easy to say that you just postpone for a while what you have learnt - that you will apply the new learning after cleaning the in-box. To counter this, I think it is important to form a "support group". Why not doing this via a forum in Yahoo? Exchange ideas and challenges that you face - and develop ways to overcome those

Jon Strande

Andreas, thank you! Actually, I was sick as well. I brought home a terrible cold from Switzerland and a bad case of jet lag, but I'm finally starting to get back to normal.

Yeah, great idea!! I have a project to work on to use the tools from class, plus they assign a Black Belt to help you, so with any kind of luck I should be able to remember, and more importantly use, most of what I learned. The other thing I'm trying is getting involved with one of the other students projects, so we can share ideas. Finally, during the class, we had teams for the various exercies, and my team has already started an email list, which seems to be pretty nice.

Thank you again!

Jon

Bren

Wow, six sigma, huh? I've always been interested in that stuff, but never had a chance to do the formal training. It was briefly covered in some MBA classes back in the day, but nothing substantial enough to really work with. I'll be interested to hear more from you on this.

How many levels are there? You're finishing up green belt, but what came prior and what's coming up?

I take a generally dismal view of corporate training. And I've done time in HR/OD. Some is great, no doubt, but so much of it seems like time filler. I love it when I attend training that really makes an impact, as this one seems to have done for you, but that hasn't been the norm for me.

How to make it better? Spending the money on professional trainers, like you had, is a good start. Many of the corporate trainers I know are just nice folks who've been given a script. There's no depth of knowledge, and training suffers for it. If the organization spends the money on professional trainers, though, they *really* need to commit to the program and no allow it to be fly-by-night.

Ok, I'll stop. Good brain food, though. :-)

Jon Strande

Brendon,

Thank you for the comment! I'm sure I'll post more on the subject since it will be part of my life going forward.

There are three levels: Green Belt, Black Belt, and Master Black Belt. So I'm just starting, as you can tell.

I'm with you, I generally take a pretty dismal view of training as well. I'm much more of a book person and will eagerly read something that I think will add value to my life or my work.

Yeah, professional trainers do make such a difference.

Thank you again!

Jon

aleah sato

Six Sigma aside (huh?), I have always felt corporate training sessions missed the mark in that they don't take the time to do some preliminary research before randomly assigning training sessions. I believe if they took the time to get staff feedback and perhaps conduct an annual testing of where people are in their skill sets, they could better match those persons who are ready for a faster paced program versus those who need to polish their skills. Overall the initial time it would take to monitor knowledge and skills, would save the company from wasted sessions, and increase long-term productivity and job satisfaction.

Jon Strande

Aleah, great idea - a regular skills assesment would go a long way in helping. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, or something like that? :-)

Jon

mls

I think perhaps you should reword point number 5 about the teachers. I recognize you probably have conflicting thoughts, but it just seems odd the way you stated it. I don't think you intended it that way, but my first read was that you were seriously mocking the teachers.

Jon Strande

mls, thank you. I guess one could make that inference from the way I wrote it. I wasn't mocking them so much as trying to illustrate that the standard way of training might be a little boring. As I ended that point, I stated that I really liked the instructors, and I did. But that doesn't mean that I liked their method of instruction every single minute.

Have you ever heard the saying "people love to buy but hate to be sold?", well, people love to learn but hate to be taught and that is really what one of the problems with corporate training is, focus on the lowest common denominator. Taken with the rest of my points, I was hoping that readers would question training in general.

Think about it. They have to move the class slowly and explain everything three times because the students didn't have a common starting point when it came to what was being taught. So, how would you fix that?

Thank you for the comment! I really appreciate it!

jon

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